Help Me Choose: Crossover edition.

"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg) 10/07/2014 at 15:21 • Filed to: None

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My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:23

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The Nephrectomy BMW

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 10/07/2014 at 15:25

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How come?

E92M3 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:26

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What engine in the X5? If you can find one with the i6 turbo I would suggest that. The early E70 x5's had a NA i6 or V8 I believe. The later turbo version has more torque, and better mpg than both.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > E92M3 10/07/2014 at 15:28

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This is a 260hp I6. N/A I believe.

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:30

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I don't mind that it is missing a kidney. The interior color looks great. And it looks miles nicer than the awful chrome-festival that is that Grand.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 10/07/2014 at 15:31

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Christ, I didn't even notice that. I assume the dealer will fix it pre-sale.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:31

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First off, do any of the BMW, Jeep, or VW have a diesel? If one has it and the others don't, take that.

Otherwise, it's basically a tossup between the BMW and the VW.

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:35

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You keep adding cars, but I like this a bit more.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 10/07/2014 at 15:42

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All 3 could be had with a diesel if need be. In this case, only the VW has it.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 10/07/2014 at 15:43

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I talked to my dad (the car's for him). He's just not comfortable driving a Range Rover. Which sucks, since I love them.

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:44

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Any particular reason? (I love them a lot)

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 10/07/2014 at 15:45

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For several reasons, he doesn't want a car that screams "rich". Even the Bimmer is pushing it.

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:48

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Nibby > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:49

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The Volvo. Or maybe the Jeep, I;m not sure

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:49

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But of these three, the VW. (No one cares about the Volvo)

If I could get a JGC diesel without all the insane chrome on it, that wouldn't be half bad. Neither is the BMW. (although hooking up a brake controller is far easier on the Jeep than the two Germans).

All things considered, for my use, I'd prefer an actual pickup.

sellphones2493 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 15:51

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Most likely the XC70. Because I'm biased. However, I would (only this one time) prefer an SUV to a car.

Gimme an XC90 V8 Executive. I've never felt safer in any car than in an XC90, I'd have the Yamaha V8, which is as reliable as the tides, and I'd have a massaging/pulsating driver's seat!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 10/07/2014 at 16:01

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I like those, but no. Too huge.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 10/07/2014 at 16:02

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The Volvo has an excellent interior, and is the most fun to drive and BY FAR the fastest with the TT V6.

A pickup has been mentioned, but it really doesn't suit our needs.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > sellphones2493 10/07/2014 at 16:03

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We looked at an XC90, but it just felt a tiny bit outdated.

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 16:08

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And I assume these are too small and/or a bit ugly.

sellphones2493 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 16:10

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Oh, it's extremely outdated.

In that case I'd go for the Toureg.

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 16:11

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X5 or the Jeep. I'd look for a different X5 though.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 16:13

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Jeep because the BMW is missing a kidney, I dislike the Volvo, and don't trust the reliability of the VW.

Plus Hemi.

efme > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 16:14

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my wife can't stand minivan looking ones. so the volvo is out.

touareg drove very nice. there are ZERO features for a 60k suv. cherokee was nice but diesel was too new. so we ended up with a '12 x5

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 16:16

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Then it's not really a WWYR, it's a Help Me Choose. :)

Because in my use case, towing is the whole reason for getting anything even remotely truckish, and the Volvo can't tow squat that's more than Class II (3500lbs), even with the T6.

The X5, the VW, and the Jeep can all tow Class III loads (BMW to 6000lbs maximum, Jeep to 7400lbs maximum, and the VW to 7716lbs).

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 16:22

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Volvo, because I like Volvo's, BMW's do nothing for me, Volkswagen's are more unreliable that Volvo's(as long as it isn't a Volvo with a GM trans), and Jeep owners are higher on the BMW driver scale than BMW drivers.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 10/07/2014 at 17:51

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Yes, BUT that reminds me of the FX, which I forgot about, so good suggestion!

My citroen won't start > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 17:52

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My mom owned one (FX) for a couple of months, great car, incredible engine!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R 10/07/2014 at 17:53

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Apart from the grill, what would you want different in the X5? Bigger engine?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/07/2014 at 17:55

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A) ignore the missing kidney. That's about the same price as an oil change.

B) The Volvo doesn't like you either :p

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 10/07/2014 at 17:57

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Very true, but if I put Help Me Choose, people would expect me to follow their advice ;).

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/07/2014 at 17:59

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Is there a Jeep/4Runner gang war I don't know about? ;)

sellphones2493 > sellphones2493 10/07/2014 at 18:31

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Did they by any chance replace the kidney grill on the X5?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 18:37

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Nope, but parking over the sidewalk is worse than taking up a couple of parking spaces.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/07/2014 at 18:39

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Jeeps tend to park onto of everything.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 18:41

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Including soft snow banks.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/07/2014 at 18:42

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That's excusable.

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 10/07/2014 at 18:45

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Nah the engine is fine, my current E90 is an I6 and I love it.

Budget permitting, I'd look for a 2011+ just because of the Facelift.

Besides that, it has the third row, which if not needed, is just a waste. It adds a complex rear air suspension. Not really a common thing to break, but why add extra weight for no reason.

The color combo is pretty good, I woud prefer a tobacco interior. Just looks so classy. White is great on the E70.

Back to budget, if possible, just spend the extra $$ to get a nicely optioned LCI model. You can even get a diesel if you want.

Alex B > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 11/14/2014 at 08:05

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BMW or Volvo. How was rear seat space in the Volvo? Could three teenagers/kinds/adults fit?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Alex B 11/14/2014 at 08:57

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I would say so, yes.

Alex B > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 11/14/2014 at 09:08

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I think an XC70 would be a good car to replace the Odyssey with.